[Polyjak]

2HG poll: http://forums.pdcmagic.com/viewtopic.php?t=3533

Chime in there! Cast your vote!



Skeletoy, jaknife, redleg and I just completed a 2HG game. We used Kamigawa Block Pauper decks with no sideboard, and our deck construction was limited to at most 2 copies of any single card.

As we were playing, I said, "What if there was an event?"

I got a lot of positive response. jaknife added, "Keep the 2-card rule."

So, I think I want to try it. It will be very simple to run, and easy to keep track of, too.

We'll meet at the same time every week, like a normal event. We'll register our team and deck. We'll get ONE opposing team, and play ONE game.

When the game is over, the teams will report the results, and then go about their business.

The scoreboard will reflect the results of ONE game per week for each team.

The following week, the format will change. A new block. Decks will obviously change. Teammates can change, too, but each new pair of players is counted as a new team in the standings. If you want to rise to the top, you need the same partner every week.

If you're interested in a 2HG tourney, please respond here with:

* best times for you during the week
* blocks you'd be most interested in
* people you would partner with

[Polyjak]

I just realized that this may well work as a 'league' format -- at a given time every week, I will post new parings for each team, and then those teams have a week to find a time to play the game and report the results.

Unlike PDCL, there won't be hundreds of matches going on every week. It will be much easier to manage.

This would also enable me, if turnout allows, to group teams into 'conferences' -- we could have the European, the Eastern, and the Western conferences. That way, teams could be paired against other teams with a similar schedule of availability.

We don't HAVE to do it that way, but it is an option. Discuss.

[Rakarth147]

Sounds interesting, I've always liked to play 2HG so I'll have a go. I'm available most times on weekends and weekdays it's evenings from 5 o'clock till late (GMT that is)

I'm up for any block really, as long as the commons are not exceptionally overpriced

Would the formats be decided early on or be kept as a surprise for each week?
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[shardfenix]

i love the idea in all but the two card rule. Maybe alter it to where both decks together can contain 4x of a single card then the team as a whole could only run 4x lava spike for example and have it split 4-0, 3-1, or 2-2 you know. If this event does occur my partner of choice if he sees this and wants to play would be ranth
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[jaknife]

something to consider may be not limiting it to one block. I think the focus could be on the format of 2gh and not the block, so like one player could choose Mirage block while another may choose rav block. it may open it to more neat interactions and enable it to stay fresh while focusing on it being a cool multiplayer format
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[Ranth]

My personal opinion on this is we should focus on getting 2hg being played as a format at all for pauper before trying to get tricky with the rest of the details such as a two card rule. the more restricive we get with the deck building the less people that will want to just randomly jump into the format. This is the same reason that certain casual formats like 5 moons died. While it was great and fun for a limited number of people getting the random passerby go "hey this looks cool can i play" becomes more of a chore for them to jump in and get their feet wet and then usually they wont wish to spend the time to even try.

So if we wish to keep things simple yet intresting, we could try this as 100 card singleton, ext, or std to start with then work a player base from there before we try changing the format even more with self imposed rules.

@ shard i know its been way too long since i've been prowling in the 2hg room but if we can get times and places to match i'll game with ya

[Polyjak]

I think that by limiting decks to 2 copies each, you're actually making things EASIER for the random jumpers, because then it's impossible to break the "4 copies per team" limit.

Interesting idea, jaknife. What if it was just Classic? But then I think the cost / familiarity barrier would limit players.

But in the end, Ranth is correct: amassing enough players to make a viable tourney is the #1 hurdle, and format concessions must be made to enable the event to fire.

[khirareq]

I played a couple of matches of this format tonight. It was very fun! 2HG is one of my favorite magic formats.

I would be strongly opposed to classic. It would be hard to get around slivers, for starters, and if we did it would probably be something like combo/counter control. I'd rather see standard if we don't do block.
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[shardfenix]

@ ranth- the majority of the days i am open after 3pm est. Send me a PM on here once they announce a format and we can start slinging ideas and testing
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[Skeletoy77]

Just wanted to chime in and say I had an outstanding time playing this yesterday. We all agreed that the team aspect is very fun.

I would rather play a newer (TSP-forward) block and keep the 2-of restriction. 2-ofs make it that much more interesting/fun and bring a new level of deck diversity. It may not sound appealing to some at first but I think if you give it a try it will grow on you.

Weekends would be best for me anytime after 1200 Noon E.T.

Here is a screenshot of a 2HG game if anyone wants to look at an example of how it is set up.


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[Boin]

I vote Timespiral with no other deckbuilding restrictions because as people have mentioned this would make for the most attendance. That fact that There is an obviously powerful linear in slivers that a lot of people will maximize turnout.

[Stillirise]

I don't have access to a computer with mtgo at the moment, but I would definitely be interested in this if the two card rule was implemented.